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Prediction Market wrap-up for 2009

Thursday, December 31st, 2009

How did 2009 turn out?

Early this year I posted my predictions for 2009. In the best spirit of Robin Hanson (getting better predictions by simply tracking how close predictions matched reality), I want to see how I did.

  • “Prediction markets in 2009 are going to become even more well-known and wide-spread, but there will be no single event that brings them to the attention of the public. It’s going to be a slow, but steady, growth.” – This was spot on. All of the vendors appear to be doing well, but there was no big “event” that brought everyone attention.
  • “All of the prediction market vendors will mature their business offering/proposition.” – Not having been on the receiving end of any of their sales pitches, I can’t say this one is true for sure. But from their blog posts and public statements I would assess this as likely.
  • “HubDub will continue to only be the only strongly popular play-money prediction market.” – Put me down as wrong on this one. Nigel and the creators of HubDub have focused their time and effort on FanDuel instead. (Rightly, for revenue reasons!) So while HubDub is still active, it’s not the hive of activity it was for a while.
  • That said, I’m still a fan of niche, public, popular sites like HSX. They managed to turn play-money prediction markets into a real-money revenue stream by analyzing trader behaviour (which can only be seen by administrators) and selling that business intelligence to the studios. This could be replicated in many industries, such as video games or television.

  • “While a couple additional software vendors may appear, I get the feeling that the market for prediction market software is largely saturated.” – This was also spot on.
  • “I’m looking forward to see how the CantorExchange develops.” – Not so much a prediction, but a hope that it proved interesting. It’s taken a long time to get up and running apparently, and won’t be widely launched for real-money contracts until 2010. (If I read the website correctly.)

A great development from InTrade

Just yesterday John Delaney of InTrade posted on his blog that InTrade will soon be offering some historical market data to the public for free. (As he notes, this means they’re losing a source of potential revenue, as historical data can be quite valuable.) This is a great development, and should be a solid source of data for people to dig in and get interested in how traders operate in a prediction market. Kudos to John for doing this.

Making prediction market trading and business intelligence easier

Wednesday, October 7th, 2009

It might not be the most ground-breaking innovation out there, but I really like what Inkling has done recently with their trading widgets. They recently demonstrated how your employees and partners can predict project management milestones within Basecamp, a very popular web application for project management.

Basecamp is used a lot in small and medium businesses, and I’ve heard that it’s becoming more common in niches of larger businesses. (It’s easy to put the relatively small monthly bills on corporate purchase cards.) It’s popularity means there’s a great population of potential customers that can start taking advantage of this new source of information.

(Inkling’s full post on how to implement prediction markets within Basecamp can be seen by clicking here.)

I’ve written before that I think there is a LOT of value in using prediction markets to forecast project milestones. (It’s generally done poorly, if it’s done at all.) One of my more popular posts according to Google Analytics is “RAG status – people lie, prediction markets don’t“. I dreamt of a day where prediction markets would be run on all project milestones, and the results of those markets would drive a project’s “RAG status”. That is now easily done with Inkling’s Basecamp widget.

There are probably still a few details to be ironed out with the actual implementation, but this is a great step forward for businesses that want better intelligence from their employees and partners. I look forward to hearing more from Inkling about how customers have taken advantage of this and if/how it’s worked for them.


From their blog post, here are two screenshots of what the screens look like before and after you trade:

The “trading” screen:

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The results screen:

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Recent prediction market news

Monday, July 20th, 2009

I’ve recently come across a couple of interesting notes in the prediction market industry.

#1 – Trading UK Housing Prices

CityOdds, based in London, has recently opened a prediction market (currently marketed as a competition) to predict a UK housing market index. While this is a play-money market, there is a £10,000 first-place prize.

CityOdds runs both fantasy markets, as well as real-money markets on currencies and other commodities. Mike Chadney, the founder, is a good guy and experienced “City” man. Check out the housing market here: http://www.cityodds.com/hpitrading.html

#2 – Predictify shuts down

Predictify made a bit of a splash when Scott Adams used them to forecast how many sales of his (then) new book were going to be sold.

It seemed a bit of an odd company; venture-funded, but with people who had no background in prediction markets at all. They offered a small number of markets where accurate forecasting would win cash, while most markets were just for leaderboard position. (My trading was perhaps typical: I’d log it and only scan the markets where I could win cash and ignore the rest.)

Well, they’ve died. According to an announcement on their website:

Due to the tough economic climate, we are planning to cease operations and shut down the company in the near future. If you have an account balance of $20 or more, please visit your account page and enter your withdrawal information by 11:59pm on August 31, 2009 to receive payment.

We sincerely enjoyed building and operating Predictify, and we’re glad that you could be a part of it.

The Predictify Team

My question is this: what does this mean for Crowdcast?

Crowdcast has an absolutely fantastic team who have great experience in prediction markets. But can they thrive as a venture-funded company? I’m hopeful, but perhaps am more skeptical that there are simply enough customers truly interested in their level of solution. Particularly as so many companies need hand-holding and thus a lot of expensive people-time through the early stages of implementation, are the profits sufficient to satisfy investors?

I don’t know, but I do believe they’ve at least got the people to give it a go. (Strangely enough, it was Crowdcast’s founder Mat Fogarty who originally told me about Predictify well before their launched.)

Prediction Markets and March Madness

Tuesday, March 17th, 2009

I wanted to take a minute and mention that HubDub is running a March Madness “Predict-A-Thon” prediction market tournament. For someone like myself that hasn’t followed college basketball in a while, this is a far more interesting way to see the tournament unfold.

As I write this, Jason Trost of Smarkets fame is currently atop the leaderboard, but I expect this may very well change over the course of the next days/weeks. HubDub’s founder Nigel has climbed from the basement of the list, where he was third from the bottom in the early days!

HubDub is trying out a new model with this tournament, and will be awarding cash prizes to the top traders! If you think you’ve got what it takes just click here to sign up now.

On a final note, I’d like to say that it’s about time that my alma mater’s basketball team, the University of Michigan Wolverines, finally made it back to the NCAA tournament. Unfortunately, this was likely due to cosmic imbalance in sporting karma from the Wolverines football team collapsing this year. It would be great if they could at least make it through the first round of the tournament to start evening things out a bit.

The value of prediction markets

Sunday, March 8th, 2009

There has recently been quite a bit of discussion on MidasOracle over the value of prediction markets. Part of this was sparked off by the recent Economist article on prediction markets, but part of it has to do with things Chris Masse has been writing for some time now. Chris is very vocal about his views, and I wanted to put a different perspective forward here.

Economist article

A recent article on prediction markets in the Economist was titled “An uncertain future.” I would describe its attitude toward prediction markets as mixed. Here are a few selected quotes:

“But although they have spread beyond early-adopting companies in the technology industry, they have still not become mainstream management tools. Even fervent advocates admit much remains to be done to convince sceptical managers of their value.”

“Koch says the results so far have been pretty accurate compared to actual outcomes, but stresses that markets are complementary to other forecasting techniques, not a substitute for them.”

“Another reason prediction markets flop is that employees cannot see how the results are used, so they lose interest. [...] its most effective trials took place in areas where managers could do something with their findings, making staff feel that trading was worthwhile.”

“Bosses may also be wary of relying on the judgments of non-experts. Yet many pilot projects run so far have shown that junior staff can often be surprisingly good forecasters.”

So I believe the article is generally positive toward the possibility of prediction markets, but generally negative toward the lack of adoption. Which is fair; though I think some good success stories have been kept quiet by some companies for competitive advantage and corporate ego.

Chris Masse’s reaction

Chris Masse has been writing about the prediction market industry for a number of years, and started his blog MidasOracle in about 2006. Strangely, Chris’ writings on prediction markets have become quite negative in recent months. As I understand it, he’s become quite irritated that prediction markets have been touted as “vastly superior” to polls in elections, and other general marketing in the industry. The front page of MidasOracle now has the following statement (his emphasis removed):

The Truth about Prediction Markets

The social utility of the prediction markets is marginal. Number one, the aggregated information has value only for the totally uninformed people (a group that comprises those who overly obsess with prediction markets and have a narrow cultural universe). Number two, the added accuracy (if any) is minute, and, anyway, doesn’t fill up the gap between expectations and omniscience (which is how people judge forecasters). In our view, the social utility of the prediction markets lays in efficiency, not in accuracy. In complicated situations, the prediction markets integrate expectations (informed by facts and expertise) much faster than the mass media do. Their accuracy/efficiency is their uniqueness. It is their velocity that we should put to work.

Remember, dear readers, you heard it here first —on Midas Oracle.

Part of my issue is his definition of “social utility”: namely that I’m not exactly sure what he’s talking about. I completely understand the concept of utility, but “social utility” is a phrase that could mean a variety of things, and I don’t know exactly what Chris means when he writes about it.

My other response to Chris is that I feel he doesn’t distinguish between public and internal prediction markets when he discusses marketing and usage of these markets. I’d like to discuss these issues here.

Public prediction markets

Public prediction markets are tricky things. They’re tricky to get a critical mass of people involved, they’re tricky to get a flow of interesting and valuable contracts, and they’re tricky when events happen that don’t easily conform to how the contracts were established. That said, there are a handful of good and interesting public PM’s. InTrade and Betfair both offer real-money markets, and the better play-money markets include Hubdub, Inkling, Newsfutures, and HSX.

These markets do get press, particularly InTrade in the run-up to the last two presidential elections. InTrade in particular seems to be irritating Chris because of the data point that they forecasted all 50 states correctly. (Which as I’ve written before probably means that the markets weren’t running as efficiently as they could; you’re supposed to get market “failures”.) And I agree with him that too much has been made of this data point.

Overall, I think Chris rightly addresses the issue of the value of public prediction markets. In many cases they’re purely entertainment, and in other cases (even the elections), they’re not necessarily better predictors than other methods. That said, they do incorporate new information faster than any other forecasting model. But I believe Chris wrongly applies these same criticisms to a completely different model, internal prediction markets.

Internal (corporate) prediction markets

Internal prediction markets seek to do either of two things:

  • forecast something important to the company where they already have a prediction
  • forecast something that’s never been predicted before

When it comes to the first point, forecasting something that the company already forecasts, prediction markets may or may not be an excellent solution. I’ve seen one set of markets that absolutely blew away the accuracy of current forecasts, and I’ve seen other markets that were consistent with current forecasts with little or no accuracy edge. In this case, prediction markets can serve as a fairly low-cost “reality check” on the official forecasts. When they deviate too much, it will raise a flag for investigation. This deviation is particularly helpful since prediction market forecasts are real-time, and can react instantly to new news.

I think the second point above is perhaps the most valuable opportunity. Simple ideas like using a prediction market to establish a RAG status could potentially be very powerful in a company. Depending on the value of the information forecasted, even a moderately accurate prediction market could be incredibly useful to a company.

Chris also over-reacts to some of the marketing from software vendors. Yes, some may mention events like InTrade predicting all 50 states in 2004, but that’s just a party trick to get people interested and in the door. Companies first need to be convinced that the tool works, then they need to be convinced that it works for them. The second part is done individually with their clients so we don’t see it. (Though I really like the case studies that Inkling have put on their website.)

I personally think that he gives too much credit to the popular press in raising the profile of prediction markets; far more credit is due to James Surowiecki and “The Wisdom of Crowds.” (Amazon link)

Summary

Prediction markets are interesting tools, but the lessons learned from public prediction markets are different than those learned from internal prediction markets. It’s important that these two applications are not confused. There will always (and rightly) be questions about the accuracy of prediction markets. In some cases it’s clear that markets are superior, in some internal cases it doesn’t matter since nothing is forecasted right now, and in other cases markets will be about as accurate as what’s already predicted. But in all three cases there is still a valuable argument as to why prediction markets should be used. It all comes down to the specific needs of an industry or company, which is where the vendors step in to help.

The results speak for themselves. Each year there are more software vendors, and each year the existing software vendors hire more people to serve their clients. I’m not going to try and predict the long-term future, but I believe the short-term future is positive.

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