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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Wisdom of Crowds&#8221; and innovation &#8211; It&#8217;s not working</title>
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		<title>By: nutrition foods</title>
		<link>http://blog.mercury-rac.com/2008/08/03/wisdom-of-crowds-and-innovation-its-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator>nutrition foods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info. May God have mercy on us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info. May God have mercy on us all.</p>
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		<title>By: seotest</title>
		<link>http://blog.mercury-rac.com/2008/08/03/wisdom-of-crowds-and-innovation-its-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-778</link>
		<dc:creator>seotest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jedc_mercury</title>
		<link>http://blog.mercury-rac.com/2008/08/03/wisdom-of-crowds-and-innovation-its-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>jedc_mercury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I addressed this more on my original post here:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.mercury-rac.com/2008/05/05/prediction-markets-using-them-for-innovation-and-ideas/&quot;&gt;http://blog.mercury-rac.com/2008/05/05/predicti...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To quote that post:&lt;br&gt;&quot;I believe that while you can use prediction markets to help quantify innovative ideas, using PM’s to prioritise ideas is a poor use of the tool.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Prediction markets are great when you have a rather well-defined idea or innovation.  For example, in the final stages of creating a new consumer product it would be very useful to determine what the company (and distributors) think demand of that product will be in order to manufacturing figures correct.  But when you&#039;re dealing with 30+ different early-stage ideas, all of which will change as they become more and more real, prediction markets are a poor tool.  There is simply too much uncertainty for a market to be of much use; other tools are more appropriate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think if you go and read my earlier post you&#039;ll see that I&#039;ve probably addressed your concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I addressed this more on my original post here:<br /><a href="http://blog.mercury-rac.com/2008/05/05/prediction-markets-using-them-for-innovation-and-ideas/">http://blog.mercury-rac.com/2008/05/05/predicti&#8230;</a></p>
<p>To quote that post:<br />&#8220;I believe that while you can use prediction markets to help quantify innovative ideas, using PM’s to prioritise ideas is a poor use of the tool.&#8221;</p>
<p>Prediction markets are great when you have a rather well-defined idea or innovation.  For example, in the final stages of creating a new consumer product it would be very useful to determine what the company (and distributors) think demand of that product will be in order to manufacturing figures correct.  But when you&#39;re dealing with 30+ different early-stage ideas, all of which will change as they become more and more real, prediction markets are a poor tool.  There is simply too much uncertainty for a market to be of much use; other tools are more appropriate.</p>
<p>I think if you go and read my earlier post you&#39;ll see that I&#39;ve probably addressed your concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Simo H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simo H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What prevents companies from using, say, PMs further &quot;down&quot; the innovation value chain? Don&#039;t you think some companies do it already?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Take Google, I think they have used PMs to get quantifiable data in all phases of &quot;innovation&quot; and implementing ideas into practice. Intel has used them to get predictions on how products will do in markets (lots of examples from using PMs in final stages of &quot;innovation process&quot;).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, I don&#039;t agree, although I think you could be right for blaming companies focusing too much on front end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What prevents companies from using, say, PMs further &#8220;down&#8221; the innovation value chain? Don&#39;t you think some companies do it already?</p>
<p>Take Google, I think they have used PMs to get quantifiable data in all phases of &#8220;innovation&#8221; and implementing ideas into practice. Intel has used them to get predictions on how products will do in markets (lots of examples from using PMs in final stages of &#8220;innovation process&#8221;).</p>
<p>So, I don&#39;t agree, although I think you could be right for blaming companies focusing too much on front end.</p>
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		<title>By: Yahoo! Open Hack Day Sunnyvale, Sept 12-13, 2008: Oddhead Blog: Prediction Markets, Gambling, Electronic Commerce, Artificial Intelligence: David Pennock: Yahoo! Research</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yahoo! Open Hack Day Sunnyvale, Sept 12-13, 2008: Oddhead Blog: Prediction Markets, Gambling, Electronic Commerce, Artificial Intelligence: David Pennock: Yahoo! Research</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Open Hack Day Sunnyvale, Sept 12-13, 2008   By David Pennock  As Jed points out, &#8220;an idea is only the first step in innovation, and it’s by far the easiest [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Open Hack Day Sunnyvale, Sept 12-13, 2008   By David Pennock  As Jed points out, &#8220;an idea is only the first step in innovation, and it’s by far the easiest [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jedc_mercury</title>
		<link>http://blog.mercury-rac.com/2008/08/03/wisdom-of-crowds-and-innovation-its-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>jedc_mercury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, I know... but I had it in good quality from iStockphoto!  But  &lt;br&gt;then again, shouldn&#039;t we be talking about LED&#039;s soon, anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, I know&#8230; but I had it in good quality from iStockphoto!  But  <br />then again, shouldn&#39;t we be talking about LED&#39;s soon, anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: fnazeeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>fnazeeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed, nice post, but for Pete&#039;s sake, use a picture of a CFL...an incandescent bulb is so 19th century!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed, nice post, but for Pete&#39;s sake, use a picture of a CFL&#8230;an incandescent bulb is so 19th century!</p>
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		<title>By: jedc_mercury</title>
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		<dc:creator>jedc_mercury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Liz.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems that a lot of prediction market-based applications tend to focus solely on ideas, which I think is unfortunate and misses most of the innovation process.  Action is so much more important than the idea when making innovation happen.  I really like what InnoCentive is doing, but also think there&#039;s a potential for another whole range of applications to help companies that have trouble defining their problems.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for commenting,&lt;br&gt;Jed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Liz.</p>
<p>It seems that a lot of prediction market-based applications tend to focus solely on ideas, which I think is unfortunate and misses most of the innovation process.  Action is so much more important than the idea when making innovation happen.  I really like what InnoCentive is doing, but also think there&#39;s a potential for another whole range of applications to help companies that have trouble defining their problems.</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting,<br />Jed</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Moise</title>
		<link>http://blog.mercury-rac.com/2008/08/03/wisdom-of-crowds-and-innovation-its-not-working/comment-page-1/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Moise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a great piece on innovation, we also find that people throw the word &quot;innovation&quot; around  casually to mean any good idea. We have found that open innovation is a very effective tool for businesses, but only like you said, when they have a very clearly defined problem or challenge they need help with. As with any good design, or idea, the solution is only effective if the problem is clearly defined. &lt;br&gt;If you&#039;d ever like to speak with someone at InnoCentive or learn more about the latest things we&#039;re developing, feel free to call me directly.&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Liz Moise&lt;br&gt;Marketing Manager&lt;br&gt;InnoCentive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great piece on innovation, we also find that people throw the word &#8220;innovation&#8221; around  casually to mean any good idea. We have found that open innovation is a very effective tool for businesses, but only like you said, when they have a very clearly defined problem or challenge they need help with. As with any good design, or idea, the solution is only effective if the problem is clearly defined. <br />If you&#39;d ever like to speak with someone at InnoCentive or learn more about the latest things we&#39;re developing, feel free to call me directly.<br />Regards<br />Liz Moise<br />Marketing Manager<br />InnoCentive</p>
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